The Rules

Aug. 1st, 2011 01:25 pm
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Here's how it works:

First, that whole thing about trans people and pronouns: it doesn't apply if the person in question is someone you just don't like anyway. Besides, when you boil it all down, "he" is gender-neutral, so there.

Second, it's possible to support LGBT people while rejecting the most basic premises of trans identity. This is totally possible.

Words like 'cis' and 'transphobia' are divisive, and should not be brought up in conversations about serious topics. But some times it's necessary to distinguish real women from trans women. This is what useful terms like "woman born woman" are for, and it's a shame that people get up in arms about that terminology.

Finally, when disagreements about issues of gender emerge, the dictionary should get the final word. Because dictionaries are about facts! Not fuzzy thinking: FACTS!

To demonstrate how all of this works, [livejournal.com profile] apresvie shows you how to apply these rules on the Internet.

On a more serious note, I feel I should say this publicly: I believe Jack, and am glad that he's getting support. I'm probably not reacting to the situation with the right amount of anger assistance, but it nonetheless remains my hope that Kynn owns her behaviour and gets help.

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Date: 2011-08-01 06:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] onyxlynx
These be the gender-essentialist rules, right?

(A flare of that species of thought licked out Saturday afternoon. I second your last paragraph, but until I air out the smoke left behind [given that I've already put a foot wrong in a different direction], I'm shutting up.)

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Date: 2011-08-01 07:39 pm (UTC)
onyxlynx: The words "Onyx" and "Lynx" with x superimposed (Default)
From: [personal profile] onyxlynx
And then I went and looked at that link.

And now I need eye disinfectant and brain bleach.

Holy Mother of God.

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Date: 2011-08-01 09:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hypatia
i had that tab open and had gotten halfway through the comments. was pleased when firefox crashed :(

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Date: 2011-08-01 09:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lisaquestions
I totally banned someone from QT for insisting that it's okay to mispronoun a trans woman because she was also a rapist. Except my basic #1 don't ever violate rule is "don't misgender." Emily and I got like two years of aggressive and passive-aggressive attacks from said bannee for "defending a rapist." But of course, the thing is that if a cis person commits rape, we don't suddenly decide they're really a different gender, right? It's just transphobia.

apresvie is pretty gross. I tried to read that post and my emotions reminded me that they are on occasion dysregulated.

As far as it goes: I believe the survivor. I believe Jack.

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Date: 2011-08-01 10:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Do you need help going after someone with a rolled-up newspaper of clue?

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Date: 2011-08-01 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] the_siobhan
[profile] apresvie is a douchecanoe.

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Date: 2011-08-02 02:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] badgerbag
Major douchecanoe without a paddle!

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Date: 2011-08-01 11:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] firecat
With "allies" like these...

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Date: 2011-08-02 03:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] serene
Bleah. So wish I could banish all the fuckwits to ther own private island!

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