I get that sometimes we don't have pants. I even get the idea that sometimes it takes a little while before we're able to really hear it when people say, "Omigod, you're not wearing any pants!"
Deleting everyone's comments was... well, special. That was the moment that I though: yeah, this person does not belong at Wiscon.
I hear you. Moon is going to have to do a lot of work before the community would be willing to accept her as a GoH and keep WisCon as a semi-safe space.
However, disinviting her (if the committee decides to do that) is going to have fallout, and it's going to need careful stage management.
I don't know where I stand on this. I mean, conceptually, I dislike the idea of retracting an GoH invitation. But if someone offends a big segment of the audience, then that's just not viable. I'm not committee, and I don't hafta be involved in any of those hard conversations, but... man.
In the Platonic Wiscon of my mind (where everything works out right), the con com would talk to Moon, explain that her post makes her appearance at Wiscon problematic, and encourages Moon to... I dunno... at least engage on the issue. The fact that she's taking her ball and going home leaves me with the feeling that that's never gonna happen.
I thank all goddesses that I'm not concom either. Unfortunately, I agree that deleting the comments makes her participation as a GoH at Wiscon next year a non-starter. She's alienated the community by trying to obliterate the responses. And the concom should be upfront about why deleting the comments is absolutely intellectually dishonest and against what we're trying to do at the con. We have a worthy GoH in Nisi, and I suggest that we don't invite a replacment for Moon.
If she had the courage to keep them up and engage in dialogue, I would say that that's behavior we want to encourage and model. Hell, we could have a panel on how to behave well when you get caught pantsless. emceeaich and I both hope that we will behave well when we, goddess forbid, get caught out.
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Date: 2010-09-16 11:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-09-16 11:21 pm (UTC)Deleting everyone's comments was... well, special. That was the moment that I though: yeah, this person does not belong at Wiscon.
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Date: 2010-09-16 11:24 pm (UTC)However, disinviting her (if the committee decides to do that) is going to have fallout, and it's going to need careful stage management.
ObDisclaimer: I am not committee.
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Date: 2010-09-16 11:33 pm (UTC)I don't know where I stand on this. I mean, conceptually, I dislike the idea of retracting an GoH invitation. But if someone offends a big segment of the audience, then that's just not viable. I'm not committee, and I don't hafta be involved in any of those hard conversations, but... man.
In the Platonic Wiscon of my mind (where everything works out right), the con com would talk to Moon, explain that her post makes her appearance at Wiscon problematic, and encourages Moon to... I dunno... at least engage on the issue. The fact that she's taking her ball and going home leaves me with the feeling that that's never gonna happen.
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Date: 2010-09-17 05:01 am (UTC)GoH at Wiscon next year a non-starter. She's alienated the community by trying to obliterate the responses. And the concom should be upfront about why deleting the comments is absolutely intellectually dishonest and against what we're trying to do at the con. We have a worthy GoH in Nisi, and I suggest that we don't invite a replacment for Moon.
If she had the courage to keep them up and engage in dialogue, I would say that that's behavior we want to encourage and model. Hell, we could have a panel on how to behave well when you get caught pantsless.
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Date: 2010-09-17 12:59 am (UTC)ugh.