Myself...

Date: 2006-10-26 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalikanzara.livejournal.com
...I'll take no position on the question.

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Date: 2006-10-26 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epi-lj.livejournal.com
(Are we personifying English for the purposes of this question?)

To what end?

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Date: 2006-10-26 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellsop.livejournal.com
Would you settle for improper use thereof meriting beatings?

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Date: 2006-10-26 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indefatigable42.livejournal.com
Not entirely. They have a specific purpose when used correctly, and can't really be replaced with anything else.

"She sees her" does not mean the same thing as "She sees herself". If you can't use "herself", "she sees her" is ambiguous because nobody knows whether "she" and "her" are the same person or two different people. (This is the bane of same-sex romance writers everywhere.)

"Please, forward the information to myself" is a case of the speaker thinking bigger words are automatically classier. It's like saying "this task is actionable" instead of "this task needs to be done". It smells like corporate doublespeak.

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Date: 2006-10-26 05:29 pm (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
But whom would ever agree to it?

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Date: 2006-10-26 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marahsk.livejournal.com
No. Giving in to the heathens and philistines is just letting them win.

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Date: 2006-10-26 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gooofy.livejournal.com
That's up to the speakers of English. Grammar books don't make the rules, populations do.

Re: Prescriptive Grammar

Date: 2006-10-26 11:39 pm (UTC)
ext_481: origami crane (Default)
From: [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
no. they provide a handy weeder for detecting people who don't care sufficiently for the language they're speaking. *tongue in cheek*.

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